The Supreme Topic of Miscellaneous Knowledge

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The Supreme Topic of Miscellaneous Knowledge

Post by Daedolon » Apr 9th, 2016, 16:35

This thread will be the center of all, preferably interesting or previously unknown, miscellaneous tidbits and facts surrounding Blood.

Have some oddities you found out, maybe found out about a weird difference between versions, saw Tchernobog march the streets, or even heard a Blood sound effect in a movie? Post them all here.

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Post by Daedolon » Apr 9th, 2016, 16:36

Here's all of the launcher headers for all of the public versions of Blood out there. Hopefully I'm not missing any. Will add screenshots when we get BBcode functionality back.

BLOOD SHAREWARE BETA BUILD 0.91 [Jan 11 1997] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
BLOOD SHAREWARE 0.99 [Mar 05 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!
BLOOD SHAREWARE 0.99b [Mar 11 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!
BLOOD SHAREWARE 0.99b [Mar 11 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME! (0.99b Retail Shareware)
BLOOD SHAREWARE 0.99c [Mar 24 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!
BLOOD SHAREWARE 1.00 [Apr 24 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!
BLOOD SHAREWARE 1.01 [Jun 13 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!
BLOOD SHAREWARE 1.02 [Jul 01 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!
BLOOD SHAREWARE 1.10 [Aug 12 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!
BLOOD SHAREWARE 1.11 [Sep 23 1997] -- BLOOD: SPILL SOME!

BLOOD RELEASE 1.00 [Apr 24 1997] [20:15:17] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
BLOOD RELEASE 1.00 [Apr 24 1997] [20:18:48] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE (Special Edition)
BLOOD RELEASE 1.01 [Jun 13 1997] [12:39:59] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
BLOOD RELEASE 1.02 [Jul 01 1997] [23:59:03] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
BLOOD RELEASE 1.10 [Aug 12 1997] [15:57:55] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
BLOOD RELEASE 1.11 [Sep 23 1997] [13:20:08] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
BLOOD RELEASE 1.20 [Mar 18 1998] [12:07:19] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE (1.00 to 1.20)
BLOOD With PLASMA PAK 1.10 [Aug 12 1997] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
BLOOD With PLASMA PAK 1.11 [Aug 19 1997] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE (1.11(CD))
BLOOD With PLASMA PAK 1.11 [Sep 23 1997] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE (proper 1.11)
BLOOD With PLASMA PAK 1.20 [Mar 18 1998] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE
One Unit: WHOLE BLOOD 1.21 [Jul 15 1998] -- DO NOT DISTRIBUTE

Both the (internet) Shareware versions 0.99(a) and 0.99b come with this following disclaimer. Note that the CD Shareware 0.99b does not come with it:
This beta version of Blood and associated files are NOT shareware
and may NOT be distributed freely

Please help us protect against software piracy (which is illegal
and drives up game prices) by following these simple rules.
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Re: The Supreme Topic of Miscellaneous Knowledge

Post by CoraX_ BlooD_RaveN » Apr 9th, 2016, 18:43

Daedolon wrote:
> Here's all of the launcher headers for all of the public versions of Blood
> out there. Hopefully I'm not missing any. Will add screenshots when we get
> BBcode functionality back.
>

Tomorrow I will present my version of the archive :D

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Post by Daedalus » Apr 9th, 2016, 18:47

Hilariously, the Corax AI added this in the form of a report to Jarmo's previous post.

"BLOOD SHAREWARE 0.99c [Mar 25 1997]

INSTALL.EXE 03.06.97 02:21:58
MONO320.PCX 02.27.97 15:13:24
SHARE.SHR 03.25.97 13:28:04"

For good measure I'll paste my list of Blood versions:

UNOFFICIAL

Blood alpha (leaked)

OFFICIAL

Blood beta 0.91

OFFICIAL SHAREWARE

Blood shareware 0.99 (also known as 0.99a)
Blood shareware 0.99b
Blood shareware 0.99c (the holy grail)
Blood shareware 1.00
Blood shareware 1.01
Blood shareware 1.02
Blood shareware 1.10
Blood shareware 1.11

OFFICIAL RETAIL

Blood 1.00
Blood 1.01
Blood 1.02
Blood 1.10
Blood 1.11

CRYPTIC PASSAGE

Cryptic Passage demo (cp04 map iirc)
Cryptic Passage (patches blood up to 1.02)

PLASMA PAK

Plasma Pak 1.10
Plasma Pak 1.11

3DFX

Blood 3dfx 1.20

ONE UNIT WHOLE BLOOD

Blood 1.21
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Post by Daedolon » Apr 9th, 2016, 20:12

You are missing the 1.20 Plasma Pak version (has both 3DFX and Plasma Pak).

EDIT: Added the proper 1.11 Plasma, thanks for pointing it out.
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Post by Daedolon » Apr 9th, 2016, 22:16

So, apparently a 1.10 Plasma Pak really exists, though I can't find out a single actual existing CD with that particular version on it. I'm not rich enough to start buying all of the existing Plasma Pak copies either.

As a disclaimer, the more common version of Plasma Pak is referred as 1.11(CD), which, coincidentally, is not the true 1.11 version of Blood. There exists a patch to patch it up to the actual 1.11 version.
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Post by Daedolon » Apr 9th, 2016, 23:12

There exists 4+2 different versions of the Blood TOOLS.

- Version 1.00 comes with the Retail FULL version 1.00 of Blood.
- Version 1.10 comes with the (unconfirmed) version 1.10 of Plasma Pak.
- Version 1.11 comes with the retail CD version 1.11 of Plasma Pak.
- Version 1.11 comes with the retail CD version 1.21 of One Unit Whole Blood.

Now, although the version numbers match between the OUWB and PP versions, they have received updates in-between, and their files do not match. In addition, Version 1.00 is patchable to the following versions

- Version 1.01
- Version 1.02

Versions 1.00 through 1.02 only come with ARTEDIT, BARF and MAPEDIT and their relevant documentation. Version 1.10 adds B2BLUD as well as EDITART (for some reason), and these are retained throughout the OUWB 1.11 version.
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Post by MoonStalkeR » Apr 10th, 2016, 05:01

It was Joebama who pointed it out to me, but Brian Eno's Stars is featured as an ambient sound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfZxZmbbWI8

The secret in E3M2's vault reveals a fortified voodoo doll containment chamber, and it emits an aura of brilliance through this sound that fades upon pickup.
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Post by Suture » Apr 10th, 2016, 06:22

As an addendum, many of the songs on the Brian Eno album that features "Stars" were also made into short, neat ambient sounds as well. "Stars" is the only one that I could find initially until listening to the whole album.
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Post by Daedalus » Apr 10th, 2016, 07:07

These ambient sound finds are brilliant discoveries to me. I MUST KNOW MORE.
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Re: The Supreme Topic of Miscellaneous Knowledge

Post by Status Cruo » Apr 10th, 2016, 11:56

I think E1M1's crematorium has it in v0.99. If it's indeed the same, awesome find 8)

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Post by Daedolon » Apr 10th, 2016, 12:45

For some reason, the (internet) Shareware version 1.01 has no persistent mouse aiming by default. You have to keep the key (default 'U') held down, similar to Quake, whenever you want to aim. You can of course go to the SETUP to change this behaviour, but it's odd that this single version acts like this by default. What makes this weird is that all versions both after AND before worked like normal. Both the Retail FULL version 1.01 of the game as well as the Retail Shareware version 1.01 have normal mouse aiming support.

On my endless quest to delve into the versions a bit further, I've noticed that even when patching something such as a 1.00 Shareware version to 1.01 versus just installing the plain Shareware 1.01, the executable files don't match. Basically there's an endless version hell of Blood versions out there.
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Post by Status Cruo » Apr 10th, 2016, 13:17

Too bad they're gone.
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Post by Krypto » Apr 10th, 2016, 13:57

Daedalus wrote:

> Blood shareware 0.99c (the holy grail)

[/Daedalus]

To this day I've never been able to install it, comes up with some pseudo, out of worldly error which I recall reiterating but I can't find my previous post, maybe Posty being bork ate it :I

What was so special about 0.99c?

@Moonstalker: Holy crap that's an awesome origin for that ambient sound in E3M2 from what I've always perceived to be a sanctuary, hiding spot, good find :wink:

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Post by Daedolon » Apr 10th, 2016, 14:02

There exists a patch for Retail Shareware 0.99c to 1.10, and that's the only patch you can do from 0.99c up.

Basically it would mean there's a physical retail shareware version with the version number of 0.99c, and that it must've come later in the development as the only patch is to 1.10. I'm assuming the European Retail Shareware version (French version) is one of these later builds.

Should be also noted that there are patches for a Retail Shareware 1.00, which I also have no knowledge of. The patches that we know of basically reveal the existence of these versions:

Blood Retail Shareware Version 0.99b
rsw99b01.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 0.99b to 1.01
rsw99b02.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 0.99b to 1.02
rsw99b10.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 0.99b to 1.10
rsw99b11.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 0.99b to 1.11

Blood Retail Shareware Version 0.99c
rsw99c10.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 0.99c to 1.10

Blood Retail Shareware Version 1.00
rsw0001.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 1.00 to 1.01
rsw0102.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 1.01 to 1.02
rsw0210.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 1.02 to 1.10
rsw1011.exe Update Blood Retail Shareware Version 1.10 to 1.11 (presumably can be used for 0.99c patched to 1.10, but unlikely)
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